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  Seems very easy to leave now, why do people hesitate?

  by Xanthippe in

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  when i see people on here saying they've looked on several sites before this one, jwfacts, jwstruggle, youtube, etc., and then they make friends here, sometimes meeting up with ex-jws, it seems incredibly easy compared to leaving in 1989. .

  no internet, no amazon to find ex-jw books, no facebook to link up with ex-jw groups.

  still people find it so hard to leave.

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  I left because I refused to shun my disfellowshipped son. I was the last one in my family in. I walked away after 42 years, not even knowing TTAT. It was one of the hardest things I have ever done. My lifelong "friends" stopped initiating contact after 5 months of nearly daily phone calls, visits, letters, emails, texts, etc. They all shun me now, but we have our family intact except my diehard JW in-laws. Sadly, there is no easy way out.
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  Why doe New light tick me off???? Next 2 weeks WT Studies

  by zophar in

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  if you have been a jw for 20+ years you may remember that the wt went into great detail on different illustrations that jesus used and the "type/anti-type" ridiculous explanations.

  remember the revelation book and how those obscure jw conventions of the past pictured big things in heaven and the opening of seals?

  anyway, the wt lessons for the next two weeks do two big things for me.

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  Zophar, great post! I think you can edit the title within the first 30 minutes.

  I do regret not waking up sooner. I too had tremendous cognitive dissonance for decades. I knew the Revelation Climax book was bat sh*t crazy. I save my anger for the GB. They are the ones that kept me in line and believing The Lie. They taught that, since I was the last one in, the only hope for the rest of my family was for me to remain loyal to God. It turns out they wanted loyalty to a corrupt organization.
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  Lett and his instruction in KMS

  by JWdaughter in

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  ok, l know i am not the first to notice or likely comment on this, but as little as i respect commenting on persons, i am going to do it now.. lett seems like a charicature.

  he is so strange-i cringe when i watch him speak.its as ifhe was once given advice to speak slowly and clearly and now he just talks like a cartoon.

  he creeps me out.

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  I can't watch him. His mouth, eyes and facial expressions remind me of the Deep Space 9 shape shifter. He creeps me out!
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  CAH closing down in upstate NY

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  yet another circuit assembly hall is going to be sold off!.

  they've been reducing the amount of congregations assigned to meet there and using the times when it isn't in use to make repairs.

  elders have now been informed that they are selling off the property and buildings and that circuits would be assigned to attend other sites, twice as far, three or four hours away, like montreal.

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  Thanks, Oppostate! That's their CAH. My in-laws are nearly 90 years old and travel too far for their assemblies already. I can't imagine that they will be able to travel an even greater distance.
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  CAH closing down in upstate NY

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  yet another circuit assembly hall is going to be sold off!.

  they've been reducing the amount of congregations assigned to meet there and using the times when it isn't in use to make repairs.

  elders have now been informed that they are selling off the property and buildings and that circuits would be assigned to attend other sites, twice as far, three or four hours away, like montreal.

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  My JW in-laws live in upstate NY. Where is this CAH located?
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  Conn. Firefighter Who Is Jehovah's Witness Files Federal Discrimination Lawsuit

  by Bangalore in

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  conn. firefighter who is jehovah's witness files federal discrimination lawsuit.

  http://www.ctlawtribune.com/id=1202722980377/conn-firefighter-who-is-jehovahs-witness-files-federal-discrimination-lawsuit#ixzz3xhkbpznt.

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  Sail Away

  I knew the plaintiff personally. I knew him to be a kind and sincere family man and elder. He was under great emotional stress dealing with his work situation while trying to support his family and be an elder.

  If anyone's motives are to be questioned, it would be his attorney. He is an elder as well. He told me he used to be a Bethel commuter for legal in Brooklyn. He got out of that obligation by sending his associate in his place. His name is widely spread in the circuit, so I was referred to him regarding a legal matter. When I didn't like his tactics, he exaggerated his time and expenses exorbitantly and refused to return my retainer.

  Also, he manages to stay an elder even though his daughter is studying to be a pediatrician and his son openly plans to attend law school. These facts have been documented in local newspapers. As always, position and privilege go hand in hand in the organization.

  I looked this man straight in the face and told him he wasn't the man he pretended to be. That was before I woke up to TTAT.
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  Has anybody been guilted/emotionally blackmailed into attending the 2015 Memorial?

  by Bucholz in

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  2. experiences

  hello everybody, i was wondering if anyone has been guilted or emotionally blackmailed into attending the memorial this year.

  something along the lines of "if you loved your family you would at least attend the memorial".

  i myself haven't attended in 5 years.

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  I wasn't invited last year and likely won't be invited this year. My neighbor told me that the last time the JWs were in our neighborhood they didn't go to my door. I'm good with that! I wouldn't go if they paid me buckets o' money!

  Now here's a Full Moon Party for ya:

  
  

  

  

  
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  Nightline program with segment on JWs has been changed until tomorrow night.

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  i was at a criminal trial all day in murfreesboro, tn, involving the notorious jw who i call "mommy molester," angela montgomery.

  this is the reason i didn't know until this evening that the nightline program with the segment on jws was changed until tomorrow night.

  (i forgot my phone.

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  Did anyone notice that they referenced Shepherd the Flock of God?

  More of Jehovah's Witnesses Statement to ABC News Regarding This Report:

  As you are aware, it would be inappropriate for us to comment on cases currently in litigation. However, in addition to the statement we previously provided, please allow us to make the following points.

  We abhor the sexual abuse of children, and we do not protect any perpetrator of such repugnant acts from the consequences of his gross sin and crime. – Romans 12:9.

  Our current and long-standing policy is clearly stated in the publication “Shepherd the Flock of God”—1 Peter 5:2, in which elders are provided the following direction:

  “Child abuse is a crime. Never suggest to anyone that they should not report an allegation of child abuse to the police or other authorities. If you are asked, make it clear that whether to report the matter to the authorities or not is a personal decision for each individual to make and that there are no congregation sanctions for either decision. Elders will not criticize anyone who reports such an allegation to the authorities. If the victim wishes to make a report, it is his or her absolute right to do so.”—“Shepherd the Flock of God”—1 Peter 5:2, chap. 12, pp. 131-132, par. 19.

  Seeking legal advice is a vital element of handling sensitive matters responsibly. Thus, for decades our elders have been instructed to contact our Legal Department whenever they learn of an allegation of child abuse. We do this, not to hide the crime and the sin, but rather to ensure that our elders strictly comply with child-abuse reporting laws.

  By means of our Bible-based publications, our religious services, and our website jw.org., Jehovah’s Witnesses have also consistently warned congregation members and the public of the need to protect their children from the horrific crime of child sexual abuse. We encourage anyone who wishes to understand our position to visit our website jw.org., and search the term “child abuse.”
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  Rational Buddhism?

  by cappytan in

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  does a type of buddhism exist that doesn't include the metaphysical aspects of traditional buddhism?

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  The Interdependence Project of New York City offers online courses in secular Buddhism.

  www.theidproject.org
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  Rational Buddhism?

  by cappytan in

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  does a type of buddhism exist that doesn't include the metaphysical aspects of traditional buddhism?

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  The Insight Meditation Society in Barre, MA USA teaches secular Buddhism. Its roots are in Theraveda Buddhism, but the teachers at IMS focus on Vipassana (insight) and Metta (loving kindness) meditation practices and do not identify with any particular Buddhist lineage.

  Secular Western Buddhist Vipassana teachings are offered freely at www.dharmaseed.org

  Jack Kornfield is an IMS meditation teacher. For those interested in Buddhist psychology, his book entitled, The Wise Heart, A guide to the Universal Teachings of Buddhist Psychology is a must read.